One for the floor

Spuggy and company seem to be having great fun with that Websphere strumpet, whilst some of us still have to hang around with her plainer sister, Domino. Now, Domino’s not much to look at, I grant you, but she does the job, and does it with little fuss. Websphere on the other hand… well, let’s just say she’s pretty demanding, and takes hours to get ready.

Mind you, she’s a real go-er once she gets out…

Ahem. So, sexist metaphoric gibbering aside, for those who have well and truly taken the Websphere plunge: where do you start? Any developerWorks tutorials you can particularly recommend? Books? On-line guff? The thing is, I’ve given up hope of doing anything decent with the J2EE platform at work — at least, not for some time — but I’m conscious of the fact that I need to get my feet wet, and that Websphere beast is as good a start as any. I’ve written servlets and JSPs, and I know my way around Java. It’s now time to do something.

Please note that no metaphors were harmed in the creation of this post. No insult was intended to my female readers, nor indeed to Domino who is working so hard to bring this most efficacious content to your good selves. I’m tired, and it’s Sunday night already…


  1. Every time I read Spuggy's WS posts I get rather depressed. It seems there's just too much *crud* involved in getting anything done.

    Which isn't to say I'm against doing stuff in Java, just that the whole J2EE gig seems a bit like doing the deed wearing about 20 prophylactics. There has to be a leaner way of doing things [smiley frown] Colin Pretorius#
  2. LOL! Fair point. I’m interested in getting to know more about WS, and J2EE in general, for my sake as a developer, but there is a mercenary element to my desire also: I want to be more marketable:

    As a code monkey, I am currently worthless [smiley frown]

    P.S. Maybe I should be following Nathan: Poole#
  3. If you are sort up up to speed with JSPs and servlets then I would reccomend:

    1. Pass the websphere associate developer exam like this.

    This will get you up to speed with WSAD and fill in any J2EE gaps. You get all the software with the book I mention. If you are like me doing the exam sort of drags you thru it and as I mention the pass mark is 55% or something, so hey, this aint hard.

    2. Once you have done this download the redbook example. This will build on the stuff you learned in the exam but critically this example is a properly structured J2EE using STRUTS, DB2 and real world design patterns. Go thru this app, make some mods and if you can be bothered re-do one of your old domino apps. You can get trials of DB2 and stuff from the ibm web site.

    You may want to read up on STRUTs and design patterns as this really helps, I bang on about them here. That said there is bound to be some good stuff for free at developer works.

    I would agree that there is a lot of *crud* involved. We do take a lot for granted in domino. Some of the apps I have written in days in domino would take weeks/months in J2EE.

    Gotta say I have a bit of sympathy for Nathan's point of view. Trouble is I have three hungry children and crops in the field and this is all I can do. There again, if the ukulele playing comes off maybe I'll be playing Madison Square Gardens in a few years and this will all seem like a bad dream.Spug-City-Rocker#
  4. I hear Nathan's frustrations, but I broke my back to get away from the accounting/auditing/business/tax consulting gig into IT, so for me that crap means I'm still too far away from the kinds of software development I'd like to be doing, not too close. :-)

    Problem is (as Nathan said in his follow-up post) - that kind of stuff isn't endemic to IT in large corporates, it's just large corporates. I got away from it for a while by joining a smaller company. The BS factor in a smaller company is a lot less, but it has a whole 'nother set of pressures.

    Thanks for those links, Spuggy. I'm also just being reactionary: J2EE virtue is also part of my fiendish master plan this year. I just kind of wish it didn't have to be ;-)Colin Pretorius#

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