This one could run and run...

I wonder if Ed realises yet what he has done :-). His latest post is a corker, asking what people are doing to mix things up with Domino and Websphere, given the basic license for the latter that comes with the former.

Well I can’t speak for people using that specific arrangement—from what I can tell, the limited license is too restrictive for many SMBs, and large enterprises like mine have whole WAS farms in their own right. But anyway, I digress.

The thread appears to be turning into a Java vs. Domino thing. For example, both Ken Yee and the Turtle have chipped-in talking about pointless migrations, RAD and the like.

I just don’t get that.

I’ve not yet been asked to migrate a Domino application to the J2EE platform, nor would I be inclined to attempt such a thing unless there was a clear demonstrable need (your Domino-based shopping trolley app has suddenly turned into Amazon, or you were just smoking crack when you coded your app in Domino in the first place). However, there is a hell of a lot to be said for combining the two. I’ve done this with some success at my place, and contrary to popular perception, the actual application development and integration didn’t take very long—it was all the mincing about with infrastructure, security and stylesheets after that that stretched the timeline.


  1. FYI, I know of a very large company that dumped Notes for Exchange (in a purely political decision by the newish CIO) and several hundred thousand dollars rebuilding a dozen or so Notes apps in J2EE/portal, because the dictate was that all Domino servers be removed - not one could be retained for even a web version of those apps. What a collossal waste of money (not too mention what they spent on the Exchange conversion). Jerry Glover#
  2. Ouch. Spending stacks of money just to get where you already are: how does that ever get past the management board??Ben Poole#
  3. One of my coworkers effectively eliminated a Notes to Exchange migration with this argument. He studied their request for information, and after some analysis, he said "Yes of course we can migrate you. It would cost you , and after that, well, you can still send email". That was effectively the end of the discussion :-)Gerco Wolfswinkel#
  4. oops.. it should say "it would cost you (insert six figure number here) and after that" etcetera.Gerco Wolfswinkel#
  5. … and after that, well, you can still send email

    I like it :-) Ben Poole#

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